Response from Friends of Marple Memorial Park

This page presents the history of previous consultations and exchanges between Friends of the Park and the council on the Marple Community Hub scheme going back as far as January 2019. It also includes a brief update on recent developments followed by our full comments on the scheme as presented for consultation on 4 September 2023.

We finish with a round-up of suggestions of how you may wish to support us in your own personal responses to the consultation.

We hope you can take the time to read and understand everything we are saying but there are a couple of quick-link shortcuts below for those of you with less time.

Quick-links:

Skip the intro and go straight to our Comments on the September 2023 Consultation.

Go straight to how you can support us with your own comments.

Background and previous consultations

Friends of Marple Memorial Park first learned of proposals to replace the swimming pool, library and possibly other existing community buildings with a brand new development in the park during confidential discussions with the council's architect in January 2019. We later attended the council's first consultation with local community groups in Marple Library on 12 March 2020, just prior to the first COVID-19 lockdown. One of our key suggestions was that the scheme should include the provision of a new play area.

We were asked to provide further information in April 2020 and submitted extensive comments and questions, plus information about our ongoing and future projects.

In October 2020 some of our volunteers took part in a review of the provisional scheme and options via a Zoom meeting with the the council and their architects. During this meeting we vetoed two suggested alternative locations in the park and also asked why the open area adjacent to Station Road had not been considered.
We were pleased to learn our suggestion to include new play areas had been taken on board.

In January 2021 we took part in the wider public consultation on the scheme and submitted our comments at that time.

In March 2021 we suggested an alternative location using the Station Road area of the park be considered and asked the council to engage with us on it. From that point onwards the council declined to discuss any further details, despite repeated direct appeals and requests via Local Councillors for them to do so.

Stakeholder meeting, discussions and drop-in sessions

On 30 August 2023 Friends of the Park attended a Stakeholder Meeting / Presentation with several other local groups.

We submitted a 9 page time-line report in advance outlining our frustration at the lack of consultation with us over the last two+ years and a list questions.

The presentations were generally very encouraging and answered many of our immediate concerns directly.

Afterwards we had a sit-down session with leaders of the project team to go through our questions for over an hour. We were further encouraged by the answers provided and the discussions that took place around issues that are still unresolved, or uncertain, due to the stage the project is currently at.

We were very pleased with the way the team engaged with us during this session and were further encouraged by assurances that going forward from here Friends of the Park WILL be engaged throughout the design, planning and build process as Key Stakeholders in the park, and we will be engaged in the detail design of the Play Areas.

We attended both drop-in sessions on 12 and 19 September 2023 to discuss our concerns and to refine our comments on the September consultation, which are as follows:

 

Consultation 4 September to 9 October 2023

Below is the response of Friends of Marple Memorial Park to the public consultation on the Marple Active Community Hub. We've focused on issues impacting the park and the Highways elements that have direct impact on the park only. The internal layout of the building will need to change as a consequence of some of our comments.

We begin with our primary concerns about access and amenity:

Key issues:

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Main constraints impacting the above key issues:

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Supplementary comment:

Our proposed solution:

Friends of the Park consider it essential that these key issues and constraints are resolved before the Community Hub scheme proceeds towards a planning submission. We will be pleased to work closely with the council to find the best solutions and compromises and agree the way forward.

In summary:

  • Widen the space between Hollins House and the new hub building (preferably by removing the Hollins House extension).
  • Include a road for vehicular access from the main car park between the hub building and Hollins House for FoMMP and TLC Park Maintenance.
  • Move the Hub building entrance to the east side, enabling the creation of a plaza area.
  • Reposition EV and disabled parking to the SE side of the hub building, supporting the entrance and toilets being sited at the east end.

Resolving the constraints:

Removal of the Hollins House extension would free up more than sufficient space to implement these solutions and we believe this option should be rigorously pursued.

If this proves to be impossible, we would reluctantly consider that the minimum necessary encroachment into the woodland to the NW side of the building may be justifiable to achieve these long-term key benefits to the overall scheme, which we will all have to live with for many years. We would wish to examine this option carefully with the design team.

However, if the Police Station is to remain the only way we can see of creating a suitable parking provision IS to remove the extension on Hollins House. We do not consider that total or significant loss of the woodland is an acceptable solution driven by the desire to retain the out-of-character extension on Hollins House.

We understand that the internal layout of the building will need to be reorientated to accommodate our recommendation to move the entrance to the east end of the building but now is the best opportunity to do this and to avoid long-term regrets about how much better the scheme could have been for the park. 

Please discuss this with Friends of the Park as Key Stakeholders in the Park, after the consultation and before proceeding towards a planning submission for the scheme.

An alternative solution:

In March 2021 we suggested an alternative solution was to build the Hub on the Station Road area of the park, to the NE side of the path running from the entrance on Station Road to Hollins House. We still consider that this may be a viable option, especially if the Police Station and / or the Hollins House extension has to remain.

It would have the advantage of not needing to demolish the library until after the new Hub was built and would potentially make the construction phase much less disruptive to the existing facilities. We envisage the library site being turned into a new play area or returned to green space after the construction is complete to mitigate some of the loss of green space.

We would therefore prefer, if the Police Station and Hollins House extension are to remain, that the option we suggested two years ago to build further out into the park is fully investigated with us before proceeding to a planning submission please.

Further detailed comments and observations:

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Play Areas / Play Park

Friends of the Park must be treated as Key Stakeholders in the Play Park

Friends of the Park were instrumental in raising the funds for both of the existing play areas - the Junior area was built in 2004 and the replacement of the Infants area was driven by us in 2008.

We have concerns about the layout and many other aspects of the Play Park element of the project. We have already had provisional discussions with your team, who have assured us that our group will be treated as Key Stakeholders in the park and fully involved in developing the Play Park designs.

We are very pleased that our full involvement in the design was verbally agreed during discussions after the stakeholder meeting on Wednesday 30 August 2023.

Here are some of the key concerns and issues that we will wish to discuss and develop:

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Community Hub Building and immediate surrounds

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Highways Features

We have only commented on Features within or immediately adjacent to the park.

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Other comments arising:

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How you can support Friends of Marple Memorial Park

If you'd like to support Friends of the Park on some or all of these issues then please pick from the items below that you agree with and include them in your personal responses to the consultation. Remember that we are only really concerned with the impact on the park, so make sure you give your own views on the hub building and the other Highways issues too.

  • Encourage the council to treat Friends of Marple Memorial Park as Key Stakeholders in the Park throughout the project.
  • Ask that safe vehicular access is provided for Friends of the Park to our Store and Mess Room shared with TLC Park Maintenance.
  • Ask for the Hub building entrance and public toilets to be sited at the east end of the building so that they are close to the Play Parks and Bowling Green and will enable the creation of an exciting central outdoor plaza area between the new building, the Play Parks and the Bowling Green buildings.
  • Ask for disabled parking to be moved closer to the east end of the building and to the Play Parks and Bowling Green.
  • Suggest that the out-of-character extension on Hollins House be demolished to give extra space to the new scheme.
  • Ask that the woodland wildlife area is preserved with minimal loss and intervention.
  • Ask for the council to work with Friends of the Park to resolve concerns over pathway routes and desire lines.
  • Ask the council to work closely with Friends of the Park to create an exciting and accessible Play Park.
  • Ask that any new CCTV is designed to also combat ASB in the wider park as well as to protect buildings.
  • Ask that the new crossing at Station Road is done without losing any trees (Highways Feature 2).
  • Ask that all the issues around the main entrance highlighted by Friends of the Park are addressed as part of the works (Highways Feature 4).
  • Reject option A for Coach Parking on Station Road that will destroy 12 mature trees (Highways Feature 8).
  • Support option B for Coach Parking outside the Regent Cinema that will only loose some parking spaces (Highways Feature 9).
  • Ask that Marple Civic Society's Accessible Woodland proposals are discussed and adopted as part of the scheme.

Of course you are welcome to support any of our other more detailed comments that we haven't highlighted in this list.

The most important thing is to have your say!

The consultation closure has been extended to 9th October 2023, make sure you share your views in good time.

Here's the direct link to the online consultation: https://consultation.stockport.gov.uk/highways-and-transportation/marple-community-hub/